GARY M. GREEN

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3700-3749

3750-3799

3800-3839

3840-3864

3865-3889

3890-3914

3915-3939

3990-3999

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Colors of the Santa Fe
Semi-Lightweight Smooth-Side Baggage and Express Cars
Models by Coach Yard


The Coach Yard models

BACKGROUND

"In an unprecedented flood of orders for head end equipment, Pullman Standard received orders totaling 250 baggage cars from the Santa Fe between May 1955 and December 1963.  These cars were desperately needed to replace aging heavyweight cars.  The new smooth side cars were ordered as shells only and delivered to the Santa Fe for completion in their Topeka Shops....The delivery of these cars marked the end of an era, the Santa Fe was never to obtain any more passenger equipment from PS."  (The Official Pullman-Standard Library, Vol. 1, Santa Fe, page 16215.)

"Depending on the service to which they were assigned, some were painted gray [with black roofs] while others were painted aluminum."  (Head End Cars of the Santa Fe, page 1531.)  Underbodies and trucks were silver.

The table here records color by car number based on photos of the actual cars.  The year that the various groups of cars were placed in service is also included.  Let me know at ggreen@inreach.com if you find an error or have more information that can be added.

I intended to include information about the "white stripe" that shows in photos below the windows on the doors.  Examining the photos in the Priest's Santa Fe Heritage, Vol. 417, I wondered if what was seen in the photos was truly a white stripe.  The conclusion is that it wasn't.  Some expert comment included:

Charlie Slater:   I think that is just the way the light is reflecting off that metal strip on the door. I do not remember any white stripes on the doors.

Dennis Kogan:  Charley's right!  I rode in a couple of these cars on excursions back in the '60s.  That is not a painted stripe.  It is a strip of stainless steel affixed to the car door with flat-head screws.  It is a common feature on other classes of Santa Fe baggage cars as well.

Its purpose is just as Charley states --- to protect the outer surface of the baggage door from being scratched or abraded as the door was being opened or closed.  These doors hung from overhead tracks, and had no direct contact with the floor below.  For this reason, they had a slight "swing" to them as they were being opened or closed.  These metal "buffer" strips, as we might call them, rubbed up against some sort of a padding material or roller (I can't quite remember) on the inside wall of the car as the door was being opened or closed which prevented the outer surface of the door from coming into direct contact with the inside wall of the car or the door frame as this slight "swinging" action occurred. 

When these semi-lightweight baggage cars were re-painted, these strips were usually painted over.  But then, through the contact of use as described above, these strips gradually became more visible as the paint wore off.  This is why these strips seem to be very apparent in some photos, yet not apparent at all in others.

I have highlighted the car number when both colors have been reported for a car.  I've also included multiple entries for a car to preserve detailed information such as photo dates and page references.  The numbering of the contents of the notes section generally reflects the order in which documentation became available.

Photos of many of the cars can be purchased from Stan Kistler.3

 
Car Number Date Body Color Source Page
3700-3749 series (63'11"); 50 cars; placed in service in 19561,14
3701 -- Gray Coach Yard16 --
" 1962 Gray Original Head End Cars5 80
" -- Gray Mainline Modeler12 95
3702 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3703 -- Gray Slater18 --
3704 1965 Gray Slide for sale on eBay --
3705 -- Gray Kistler3 --
" 1966 Silver Kogan10 --
3707 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3709 Aug, 1968 Silver Ellington20 --
3710 -- Silver Slater18 --
3713 -- Silver Stagner4 6
3716 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3717 -- Gray Slater18 --
3719 1962 Silver Head End Cars1 113
" -- Silver Kistler3, Chenoweth24 --
3720 Sep, 1968 Silver Ellington20 --
3722 1965 Silver Kogan10 --
3723 -- Gray Slater18 --
3725 -- Gray Slater18 --
3726 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3727 -- Gray Slater18 --
3728 -- Gray Kistler3 --
" -- Silver Ellington20 --
3729 1960 Gray Stout21 114
3731 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3733 -- Gray Coach Yard16 --
3735 -- Gray Slater18 --
3737 -- Gray Kistler3 --
" Sep, 1968 Silver Ellington20 --
3742 -- Gray Chenoweth24 --
3744 1968 Gray Santa Fe Heritage17 162-170
3747 -- Gray Coach Yard16, Kistler3 --
3748 -- Silver Kistler³ --
3750-3799 series (63'11"); 50 cars; placed in service in 19581,14
3756 1966 Silver Kogan10 --
3757 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3758 -- Gray Slater18 --
3759 -- Gray Slater18 --
3763 Dec, 1967 Silver Goen2 93
3764 -- Silver Kistler³ --
" -- Gray Coach Yard16 --
" 1963 Gray Original Head End Cars5 80
3769 -- Gray Slater18 --
3770 -- Gray Slater18 --
3779 -- Gray Slater18 --
3782 -- Gray Slater18 --
3783 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3786 Aug, 1966 Silver Fallen Flags8 --
3789 -- Gray Slater18 --
3790 -- Silver Kistler³ --
3791 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3797 -- Gray Slater18 --
" -- Gray Warbonnet13 24
" 1963 Gray Head End Cars1 113
3799 -- Gray Slater18 --
3800-3839 series (73'11"); 40 cars; placed in service in 19601,14
3800 1963 Gray Head End Cars¹ 114, 153
" -- Gray Coach Yard16, Kistler3, --
3804 -- Gray Coach Yard16 --
3811 -- Gray Head End Cars¹ 114
" -- Gray Kistler3 --
3813 1965 Gray Kogan10 --
3817 May, 1966 Gray  Fallen Flags7 --
" -- Gray Coach Yard16 --
3822 -- Silver Ellington20 --
3824 May, 1965 Gray Goen² 124
3827 -- Gray Kistler3 --
3828 1966 Gray Head End Cars¹ 114
" -- Gray Kistler3 --
3834 -- Gray Slater18 --
3836 -- Silver Slater18 --
3837 -- Silver  Mainline Modeler12 95
" -- Silver Coach Yard16 --
" 1963 Silver Original Head End Cars5 82
3838 -- Silver Slater18 --
3839 1963 Gray Shine22 --
3840-3864 series (73'11"); 25 cars; placed in service in 19611,14
3840 -- Gray Slater18 --
3847 -- Gray  QStation6 --
3848 -- Gray Slater18, Kistler3 --
3857 Sep, 1968 Silver Ellington20 --
3859 -- Gray Slater18 --
3861 1966 Gray Kogan10 --
3863 Sep, 1968 Silver Ellington20 --
3864 -- Gray Coach Yard ad11 --
3865-3889 series (73'11"); 25 cars; placed in service in 19621,14
3877 -- Gray Stagner4 6
3878 1964 Gray Platt23 --
3881 1971 Gray Kogan10 --
3890-3914 series (73'11"); 25 cars; placed in service in 19631,14
3900 Apr, 1971 Silver Ellington20, Chenoweth24 --
3901 Oct, 1971 Silver Ellington20 --
3904 -- Silver Painting and Lettering Guide9 17
3906 -- Silver Kistler3, --
" Apr, 1971 Silver Ellington20 --
3908 May, 1971 Silver Ellington20 --
3910 Oct, 1971 Silver Ellington20 --
3911 -- Silver Slater18, --
" Jul, 1972 Silver Ellington20 --
3914 -- Silver Coach Yard16 --
" 1971 Silver   Kogan10 --
3915-3939 series (73'11"); 25 cars; placed in service in 19651,14
3918 1964 Silver Head End Cars¹ 114
3919 -- Silver Coach Yard ad11, Chenoweth24 --
3927 1965 Silver Kogan10 --
3935 Nov, 1973 Silver Ellington20 --
3939 Jul, 1972 Silver Ellington20 --
" -- Silver Slater18, Chenoweth24 --
3990-3999 series (73'11"); 10 Cars; placed in service in 19601
3990 -- Gray Slater18, Chenoweth24 --
" 1963 Gray Original Head End Cars5 83
3991 -- Gray Slater18 --
3992 -- Silver Slater18 --
" 1972 Silver Ellington20 --
" -- Gray Coach Yard16 --
3993 -- Gray Slater18, Kistler3 --
3994 -- Gray Slater18, Coach Yard16, Mainline modeler12, Kistler3 --
" Nov, 1973 Silver Slater18 --
3996 1972 Gray Ellington20 --
3997 -- Gray Slater18, Coach Yard16, Kistler3 --
" 1972 Gray Ellington20 --
" 1963 Gray Head End Cars¹ 115
3998 1963 Gray  Head End Cars¹ 115
" -- Gray Coach Yard16, Kistler3 --
" -- Gray Slater18 --
3999 mid-1970s Gray Robbins19 --
" 1963 Gray Original Head End Cars5 83
" 1966 Gray Kogan10 --
NOTES
      1.  Frank M. Ellington and Joe W. Shine, Santa Fe Railway Passenger Car Reference Series:  Vol. 1, Head End Cars of the Santa Fe,  SFRH&MS, Highlands Ranch, CO, 1999.
      2.  Steve Allen Goen, Santa Fe in the Lone Star State, Vol. 1, 1949-1969, Four Ways West Publications, La Mirada, CA, 2000.
      3.  Stan Kistler collection, http://www.atsfrr.com/store/KistlerPhoto/Index.htm, List SF-5.  A PDF version of the list and prints of the photos are available directly.  Contact Stan at MrATSF@att.net.
      4.  Lloyd E. Stagner, ATSF Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment, Morning Sun Books, Inc., Scotch Plains, NJ, 1995. 
      5.  Joseph W. Shine and Frank M. Ellington, Passenger Train Equipment, 1870-1971, of the Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe, Vol. 1, Head End Cars, Rail Car Press, Colfax, IA, 1973.
      6.  "ATSF 3847 - smooth sided (green paint) baggage car [ABPR]," Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Pasenger Cars, An Internet Photo Guide," Last accessed Mar. 8, 2013.  http://qstation.org/PhotoGuide/ATSF/ATSF_PhotoGuide_Pass_Cars.html.  Photo at http://qstation.org/PhotoGuide/ATSF/atsf_3847_2dr_baggage_pueblo.jpg.
      7.  "Bag 3817 - Joliet IL - 05/1966 - {Jim Parker Photo}," Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos:  Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, Passenger, Last accessed Mar. 8, 2013.  http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf.html.  Photo at http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-be3817jpa.jpg.
      8.  "ATSF Trains - La Junta CO - 08/1966 - {C Wilbur Photo}," Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos:  Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, Passenger, Last accessed Mar. 8, 2013.  http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf.html.  Photo at http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-paxtrn-cwf.jpg.
      9.  Richard H. Hendrickson, Painting and Lettering Guide for Model Railroaders, Vol 1, Rolling Stock, SFRH&MS, Highlands Ranch, CO, 1998. 
     10.  Dennis Kogan collection. 
     11.  Coach Yard ad.  Last accessed Mar. 7, 2013.  http://www.thecoachyard.com/PDF/SFEconomyBag.pdf.
     12.  Coach Yard ad, Mainline Modeler, June/July 1982.
     13.  John R. Signor & Dave Lambert, "The Fast Mail Express," The Warbonnet, Q2 1997.
     14.  Fred W. Frailey, A Quarter Century of Santa Fe Consists, 1st reprint, RPC Publications, Godfrey, IL, 1985.
     15.  W. David Randall and William M. Ross, The Official Pullman-Standard Library, Vol. 1, Santa Fe, Railway Production Classics, Godfrey, IL, 1986. 
     16. The Coach Yard collection.
     17.  Stephen and Cinthia Priest, Santa Fe Heritage, Vol 4, Paired Rail Road Publications, Ltd., Kansas City, MO, 2003.
     18.  Charlie Slater collection.
     19.  Mike Robbins photostream.  Last accessed Mar 8, 2013. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/7464060380/.
     20.  Frank M. Ellington photo, Dennis Kogan collection.
     21.  Greg Stout, Santa Fe Through Passenger Service in Color, Vol. 1, Morning Sun Books, Inc., Scotch Plains, NJ, 2009. 
     22.  Joseph Shine photo, Dennis Kogan collection.
     23.  Roy Platt photo, Dennis Kogan collection.
     24.  Tom Chenoweth collection. 
 
CONTRIBUTORS
David Allen, Tom Chenoweth, Thomas Davis, Mike Flick, Stan Kistler, Dennis Kogan, Ron Merrick, Charlie Slater.